Rob + Ellen
Rob + Ellen
|To the impressionable anon: "impressionable" doesn't equal "I am modeling my entire future love life on this and using it as a set of instructions." Sometimes that happens, but more often it is internalized impressions. It's not being in a controlling relationship and thinking "Edward was like this, so it's ok and how love is," it's being in a controlling relationship and NOT realizing it's bad b/c of internalized expectations fed by problematic media that's never deconstructed for it's audience|
You may have noticed that this blog seems to be less full of hilarious Rpattz gifs and more full of my personal anti-Twilight beliefs lately. And that is, whether you like it or not, where this blog is headed. Only because, given the fact the Twilight franchise is over, the amount of self-loathing our dear Rob is spewing has drastically decreased.
If you’re not interested in reading my various rants/diatribes/fighting with anons you can either tumbr savior the tag “let’s rock talk” (which I tag all our asks with) or you can simply unfollow us. We’ll be sad to see you go but given the fact the content isn’t what to used to be, we understand.
However, if you’re interested in seeing what we have to say and learning more about the problematic themes running through the Twilight franchise, then please stay and hang around! We adore you guys. We just got thirteen messages that were outpourings of love and support and that’s just awesome.
There will still be as many funny gifsets and quotes as we can find (or you send us). We will do our very best to bring you as much self-loathing as we can find. There will also be some arguments thrown in there as well, because I just love a good sassfest.
All the best,
|Also, your excessive use of the word "impressionable" is laughable. Should we chain these girls in a dark cave, prevent them from moving their limbs and necks, forcing them to stare only at shadows we project on the cave wall? Why yes, that was a reference to Plato's Allegory of the Cave; thanks for noticing. Whether or not girls are exposed to a fictional, abusive vampire and his sheepish girlfriend at age 12 will make no difference in who they become as people. tl;dr: get the fuck over it.|
Should we chain these girls in a dark cave, prevent them from moving their limbs and necks, forcing them to stare only at shadows we project on the cave wall?
Clearly, you haven’t seen the nine million posts I’ve made about putting an emphasis on strong female role models and kicking the media in the ASS about bringing characters of that ilk to the forefront of their programming, but thanks for playing!
Why yes, that was a reference to Plato’s Allegory of the Cave; thanks for noticing.
Everyone and their dog reads the Cave in like, the ninth grade, I remain thoroughly unimpressed with your attempts to show me how ~*~ well read~*~ you are.
Whether or not girls are exposed to a fictional, abusive vampire and his sheepish girlfriend at age 12 will make no difference in who they become as people.
Tell that to the generation of girls my age who grew up wanting to be Hermione Granger. What you put into your brain during your formative years has MASSIVE psychological impact. Do you know how many girls are looking for their Edward? Who would find that relationship, that disturbing relationship, romantic and acceptable?
I know because I know them. I’ve been to signings and events. I’ve held countless conversations with Twihards. And I’ve got a lot of converts.
Look. I am not telling ANYONE not to read Twilight, or to see the movies. They’re a guilty pleasure and everyone deserves their guilty pleasures (or not-so-guilty). But it’s problematic and people should be educated about it. If you don’t like that, why on EARTH are you talking to me?
|Though I've had minimal exposure to the books or movies, I feel it must taken into account that these are works of FICTION. There are plenty of books with misogynistic themes, and plenty of books chalked full of poor role models. Whether someone reads a book about a damsel in distress or a child rapist, it doesn't matter; readers aren't forced to assume the persona of a character they read about. People are free to read whatever they please. Would you rather the books be burned than read?|
plenty of books chalked full of poor role models
You mean “chock full”, but I’ll let it slide.
Whether someone reads a book about a damsel in distress or a child rapist, it doesn’t matter; readers aren’t forced to assume the persona of a character they read about.
Find me one book in which a child rapist is painted with same heroic brush that Edward is.
People are free to read whatever they please. Would you rather the books be burned than read?
I would like the books read with the grain of salt that simply isn’t there. Fiction is fiction and people can write what they like and read what they like - what bothers me is the cultural phenomenon of Twilight that blatantly disregards the EXTREMELY CREEPY nature of their relationship and paints it as the perfect romance. What bothers me is that no one is willing to step up to the plate and publicly bring these issues forward because the media creams it’s jeans over anything and everything Twilight because the fanbase is MASSIVE and the franchise is worth millions of dollars.
And the fact that the writing is flat-out awful. That too.
Filling in for Robert Pattinson’s beautiful self loathing is co-star and partner in vampirism, Kristen Stewart!
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|It's also worth noting that upon finding out that Bella is pregnant, almost the first thing Edward does is try to take AWAY Bella's choice. He never asks her if she's okay. He never asks her what she wants. He doesn't even consult Bella before making plans with Carlisle for an abortion. (Which is of course in large part Meyer setting up a pro-choice strawman argument for her pro-life heroine to smash, though it's also consistent with Edward's abusive, controlling behaviour.)|
|the whole point of feminism is choice, therefore bella choosing to keep her baby instead of aborting it doesnt mean she is anti-abortion at all, its just what she decided to do. not everyone who has children is agaisnt abortion. and if you didnt notice edward doesnt want bella to keep the baby because it is killing her, but he loves bella and trusts that they can save both her and the baby. im not directing this only at you guys but just giving another perspective on the issue|
let me make it real clear: while we are decidedly pro-choice, bella’s decision to keep her baby isn’t a reasons why twilight is anti-feminist. keeping a baby that is killing you, while crazy to ME, may not be crazy to you and that’s totally acceptable. being pro-choice doesn’t mean having abortions, it means supporting the right of others to do so.
HOWEVER i do think that stephenie meyer, religious wackjob that she is, took a 100% pro-life stance in her book. and i’m not crazy about that.